Ubuntu founder: Microsoft is our patent pal

Software giant and Linux face a common patent enemy.

Microsoft is not the real patent threat Linux and open source developers should be worried about, said Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth. In fact, the software giant will itself be fighting against the software patents system within a few years, Shuttleworth predicted.

Shuttleworth was responding to a recent Fortune magazine interview in which senior Microsoft figures sent shockwaves through the software industry by declaring that Linux and other open source software violates 235 Microsoft patents.

But while Microsoft is using familiar tactics to put the fear into Linux users, Shuttleworth argued open source and Microsoft are ultimately on the same side of the software patent issue.

"I’m pretty certain that, within a few years, Microsoft themselves will be strong advocates against software patents," Shuttleworth wrote. "Microsoft is irrevocably committed to shipping new software every year, and software patents represent landmines in their roadmap which they are going to step on, like it or not, with increasing regularity."

Microsoft makes the "perfect target" for software patent lawsuits, and the company will pay more for such suits every year until they finally threaten its business, Shuttleworth said.

"Microsoft will lose a patent trench war if they start one, and I’m sure that cooler heads in Redmond know that," he wrote. "The real threat to Linux is the same as the real threat to Microsoft, and that is a patent suit from a person or company that is NOT actually building software, but has filed patents on ideas that the GNU project and Microsoft are equally likely to be implementing."

He said the most dangerous litigants are companies not themselves in the software business, small ventures or holding companies that get their principal revenue from patent licensing.

He singled out former Microsoft CTO Nathan Myhrvold and his company Intellectual Ventures, which is stockpiling patents at a rate that alarms large companies such as IBM and HP, as an example of such a potentially dangerous company.

But even such companies - sometimes known as "patent trolls", although Shuttleworth said he himself dislikes the term - are not themselves the real enemy. "They are only following the rules laid out in law, and making the most of a bad system," he wrote.

Rather, it is the patent system itself, which allows software patents to exist in the first place, that needs to be fixed, Shuttleworth argued. He said Ubuntu supports organisations such as the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure (FFII) and the Open Invention Network, which are attempting to do just that.

In the meantime, he said he expects Linux to be targeted by a "definitive" patent lawsuit within the next ten years.

"I'm certain someone will sue somebody else about Linux on patent grounds, but it's less likely to be Microsoft (starting a trench war) and more likely to be a litigant who only holds IP and doesn’t actually get involved in the business of software," he wrote.

In an interview with Fortune magazine a week ago, Brad Smith, Microsoft's general counsel, and Horacio Gutierrez, the company's vice president of intellectual property and licensing, said Microsoft wants distributors and users of open-source software to start paying royalties for the alleged patent violations.

"This is not a case of some accidental, unknowing infringement. ...There is an overwhelming number of patents being infringed," Gutierrez said.

Smith broke down the alleged patent violations during the Fortune interview, saying the Linux kernel violates 42 patents and the operating system's user interface violates a further 65. He went on to claim that the Open Office application suite violates 45 patents and open-source e-mail applications infringe on 15 more. Other open-source software applications infringe on 68 patents, Smith said.

Microsoft has been laying the groundwork for patent claims against Linux and open-source software for some time. Most notably, the company signed a Linux deal with Novell that indemnifies the company against Microsoft patent claims over Linux.

Two weeks ago Dell joined the deal, becoming the first hardware vendor to do so.


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John | Published: 10:16 GMT, 22 May 2009

If someone was really creative they would resurrect that old fourth program that Epson used on its QX-10 computer and pick up the logic that Epson had with that TPM overlay for CPM and that office suite ValDoc. If Microsoft pushes to hard on Linux, it might be the public that pushes back.

John | Published: 10:03 GMT, 22 May 2009

I am 100% in favor of respect for PATENTS to many Americans get ripped off by other Americans thinking that information is for the taking without respecting the knowledge that it took to make it. That being said I am also in favor of Linux and the idea of what is going on with the Ubuntu revolution and cutting the cord with MS and Uncle Billy Gee. I think OPEN SOURCE has as much right as closed source does and even while now an Ubuntu desktop is far more stable than a Vista one is over time, I think Bill has to understand that it is one thing to sell software to run on linux and another thing to try to stop linux. People are so fed up with old blue screen that if given the chance many would go back to CPM86 and TPM, if we only still had the hardware to run it! I for one like Open Office and Abiword. Still have an old windows computer but the Ubuntu machines are far better, and more stable. I would take an old Epson qx10 over vista anyday. Keep Linux FREE

nuriko | Published: 11:49 GMT, 19 June 2008

it's beem hard raseardhing in this wedsite but its worth it

jf | Published: 05:58 GMT, 20 June 2007

Linux has always been more secure and (to a degree) more user friendly than windows it works properly and as more and more people rediscover Linux and its attractive open source alternatives to windows os Microsoft will feel continually threatened by this open source os so it made this claim just to get attention

satyagraha | Published: 23:14 GMT, 28 May 2007

One only ahs to look at the timeline, i.e. the time of filing the patent and the actual development of the product. also there's documentation to contend with. One cant just plant phoney documentation reverse engineering marvels and hope to get away with it in a court of law .. I still believe that jurors may be corrupt but theyre not stupid. ( But theyre so corrupt that i feel stupid writing this .. eventually its a game of who can bury the other's legal team in the biggest pile of epaperwork in the history of printing)

Microsoft Employee | Published: 23:38 GMT, 27 May 2007

The idea of Microsoft making a patent infringment lawsuit is certainly laughable. Particularly in historical context. Microsoft was built upon patent infringment itself. When Microsoft first made a final DOS and sold it - soon after it realized there could be money in the OS market and set off to quickly build another it could sell for itself. So to save time, it stole code from D-DOS. When Microsoft saw the MAC OS it stole the graphical idea completely, right to the cursor, and made "Windows" out of it. When MAC sued, MS strategically obtained controlling interest in MAC by shares so to drop the suit against itself. Microsoft has indeed set the bar on patent infringement. So, I say "POT, MEET KETTLE".

MRamirez | Published: 01:24 GMT, 25 May 2007

I'm asking when will someone start patenting methods like "how to walk on the surface of the moon backwards" and will start to charge when we move into the moon or mars something. That is what is happening right now on earth. I think patents on real things first and off the software market.

darkjorseporter | Published: 15:21 GMT, 24 May 2007

So is Microsoft setting up these deals with Novell, Dell, and whoever else in the future to potentially protect itself, not extort funds. If I remember correctly, Microsoft actually gave Novell money at the end of the day.

darkjorseporter | Published: 15:18 GMT, 24 May 2007

So is Microsoft setting up these deals with Novell, Dell, and whoever else in the future to potentially protect itself, not extort funds. If I remember correctly, Microsoft actually gave Novell money at the end of the day.

Sebster | Published: 14:31 GMT, 24 May 2007

I don't think this has much to do with actual patents at all. What it does do is create uncertainty among people and businesses who run Linux or, more importantly, people thinking of switching to Linux. I'll bet that more than just a handful of businesses that were considering switching to Linux will now go and get Vista because of this news. It's just another underhanded attempt by Microsoft to prop up it's ailing monopoly.

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