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Transport for London ticketing chief dubious about mobile NFC

The mobile contactless payments industry is struggling to take off because there are too many stakeholders

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The head of business development at Transport for London (TfL), whose Oyster card system is one of the most successful contactless ticketing programmes in the world, claims he is “not convinced” about mobile payments using NFC.

The Oyster card is often held up as an example of how contactless payments are the future of high street retail. There are currently 52 million Oyster cards in circulation, compared to 26 million contactless Visa cards, making TfL the largest contactless card issuer in the UK.

Oyster cards work using NFC (Near-Field Communication) – a set of standards that allow devices to establish radio communication with each other by touching them together. TfL passengers touch their Oyster card to an electronic reader when entering and leaving the transport system in order to validate it or deduct funds.

NFC technology is increasingly being integrated into bank cards, to allow people to carry out low-value transactions without having to enter their PIN number. UK food chains such as McDonald's, Subway, and Eat accept contactless payments, as well as retailers such as Boots and Marks & Spencer.

At the end of last year, TfL started allowing customers to pay their fare using contactless bank cards on 8,500 London buses, and from November 2013 passengers will also be able to use their payment cards for travel on the Tube or the Dockland Light Railway (DLR).

“This is quite a revolution. Whether you're a visitor from abroad or in the UK, whoever you are, get the card out of your pocket and tap it on the reader and travel. So TfL becomes like every other merchant, charging at the end of the day for how much travel you've made,” said Matthew Hudson, head of business development for fares and ticketing at TfL.

The obvious next step would be to enable mobile contactless payments on buses and the Tube. The majority of smartphones now include NFC capabilities, and there are a number of mobile wallet offerings from the likes of Orange, O2 and Google. US analyst firm the Yankee Group predicts that mobile payments will become a $1 trillion business by 2015.

However, Hudson claims that he is just not convinced about NFC and mobile phones because there are too many stakeholders – with banks, retailers, mobile network operators, device manufacturers and advertisers all fighting for a share of the revenues.

“It's taken ages. How much money is there to make with all these parties trying to get a piece of it?” said Hudson, speaking at a Westminster eForum on the future of digital payments. “We've just sat back and said we're not interested. When you've worked it out come back to us and we'll engage.”

Richard Johnson, strategy director at mobile payments company Monetise, added that the advent of mobile money is driving battles not just between these stakeholder groups, but also within them.

Banks are competing over who has the best mobile banking services, while operators and device manufactures are arguing over whether the NFC should sit on the SIM card or be integrated into the device. Meanwhile retailers are keen to protect their traditional revenue streams, and online advertisers are keen to open up new ones.

“The stakes are incredibly high for all these industries. There's going to be some big winners and some big losers, but the outcome is not pre-ordained,” said Johnson.

Hudson said that running the Oyster card service in its current form costs 14 pence for every pound in revenue. TfL collects just over £3 billion in revenues a year, so about £400 million a year is spent on revenue collection.

TfL is currently trying to get this cost down from 14 pence to the pound to 10 pence to the pound, but allowing an array of mobile payments stakeholders to claim a slice of the pie could make it much harder to turn a profit, according to Hudson.

The question of customer service is also an issue that needs ironing out before TfL will be willing to consider mobile contactless payments. At the moment, it is not clear who a customer should contact if something goes wrong with their mobile wallet.

“Who do you call when it doesn't work? It's very clear with Oyster – you go and call TfL. Any other system that isn't clear about where you go will not work,” said Hudson.

“When I'm doing transactions on my mobile phone, who do I contact? Is it my operator? Is it the scheme? Is it the bank card that's linked to it? If it's confusing I won't use it.”



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@charlesweir said: The number of active Oyster cards is of course much less than the 52M total that have been issued Its probably about 22M httpwwwwhatdotheyknowcomWe should take Mr Hudsons comments with a pinch of salt He is as he says in negotiation with other card suppliers over money - The cost of running the Oyster card scheme is indeed high - but the cost of the manpower to run cash-based ticket schemes is also very high and we can speculate that its rather higherAnd Who do you call when it doesnt work is not a new problem The new NFC payment schemes are all extensions of creditdebit card schemes and the answer to who you call when your card doesnt work is simple Its the card provider As a credit card user you dont need to care that your card was sent out by one company the chip software set up by another and the payment network managed by several others Mobile phone payment systems all have Apps provided by the card provider and if they dont work or there are payment problems you always contact the card provider The app may even help you make the callExciting times- Charles see httpwwwpenrilliancom

Patricio Colombo said: Its very interesting that Hudson believes you can go and call TFL if theres a problem I had a problem with Oyster and TFL blamed Southwest Trains and I was left in the middle having problems recovering my funds as it was very hard to convince them mine was an Oyster problem and they needed to deal with it Perhaps he is right in thinking with more stakeholders the problem will only be worse

Unknown said: There are currently 52 million Oyster cards in circulation compared to 26 million contactless Visa cards making TfL the largest contactless card issuer in the UKReally - one for every adult person in the Uk more or less Where do they all use them



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